Most important features for a tactical shotgun?
November 5th, 2009 by eranio
How important all these features to you for a tactical shotgun and why, please?
1) Semi vs Pump Action
2) Ghost rings
3) Folding Stock
4) Pistol grip
5) Muzzle Break
I’ve got up to 0 to work with, to buy and accessorize my shotgun. I’m torn between the saiga 12, a mossberg 590A1, remington 1100 tac-4, mossberg 930 road blocker!
Posted in tactical shotgun
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Most important feature?…..
SIMPLICITY !…………..
Avoid all tactical nonsense…. When you need a shotgun to defend yourself or your family the last thing you need is to be fumbling around with top folding, side folding, under-folding, collapsible stocks, lazer pointers, flashlight buttons or anything pistol grip……
The Most reliable shotgun on the planet is the Mossberg 500 / 590 series of shotguns…… Avoid semi-autos, or the Remington 870 shotguns…. Semi-autos have a reputation for fail to feeds, jambs or fail to ejects… The time for a malfunction is not during a home invasion… Reliability is a serious business – don’t screw around…. A note about the 870 – Those are a fine shotgun for hunting but forget it for defense – I don’t give a poop how many police cars have them…..
Here are the technical details why…..
http://jth8260.tripod.com/870.html
Also avoid pistol grips – You can not reliably hit anything with any accuracy with one of them…. They look cool and sinister in the movies or video games so dont be influenced by that….
Consider a short barrel Mossberg 500 or 590 with a full stock and no nonsense add ons……..
6 shot short barrel Mossberg 500…..
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/NEW/50411.jpg
8 shot short barrel Mossberg 500……
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/NEW/50577.jpg
The 590s for home defense are a little overkill but if you want the best then get one…..
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/NEW/50660.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/NEW/52682.jpg
Trust me I own them all — The 870′s, 590′s, 500′s and even the 930 SPX…..
Take a look…. Heres a few of them….
http://www.dystopiat.com/Goffpics/guns/DSCN0707.JPG
Get a No nonsense model, nice cleaning kit, decent hard shell case and ammunition in bulk……
You do not need to spend $900 or even close for reliabilty….. A $300 gun with a $90 case and $20 cleaning kit is all you need….
By the way — Clean your shotgun like this… It sounds crazy but works….
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu9.htm
and buy bulk 2 3/4 inch slugs and buckshot…..
http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/ammo-for-shotguns/12-gauge/cPath/52_458
and learn to be good at this and your all set…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQearB6S6AU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0QOSxLbpA
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I would get the 590A1. what a beauty.
should be light to carry
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
pump is more reliable, semi can be operated one-handed.
ghost rings are nice, but not necessary if you practice alot.
folding stock is less stable but better than no stock, and convertible.
absolutely yes on the pistol grip.
muzzel break is a no. you don’t want the extra flash in your field of view in a low-light situation.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I don`t know if by tactical you mean something for urban combat, but I guess that is where the term originate, so that exclude normal length shotguns.
But on the off-chance that you will consider a normal size shotgun then I would suggest you check out the Beretta semi-automatic 12 gauge with interchangable chokes, it is a fine gun, may cost a bit more, but like good tools you will appreciate it long after you have forgotten the cost.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
1 – pump/semi personal choice (i prefer pump)
2 – Ghost rings – waste of money
3 – folding stock – waste of money
4 – pistol grip – personal choice
5 – break – waste of money
The most important feature for a tactical shotgun is that it go boom when you pull the trigger.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
1 Pump Action
2 Remington 870
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/model_870_express_synthetic_18inch.asp
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/model_870_TAC_Desert_Recon.asp
http://www.galleryofguns.com/Genie/Default.aspx?item=81402-REM&mfg=Remington&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Shotgun&cal=12+Gauge&fin=All&sit=All
Forget the roadblocker, my gun suppliers tell me that the only people who buy thoses things are 18 year old video gamer ghetto rats. That muzzle brake will brake more times than save you in recoil. All gases expelled out the side onto walls.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
THE most important feature is utter and complete reliability. It must work every time under every condition.
I prefer a pump, and it must have twin action bars not one.
A semi can jam, it can mis feed due to worn out gas rings, it is more finicky than a pump and requires much more maintenance.
Ghost ring sites are a nice plus, especially night sites.
I do not care for folding stocks or pistol grips on a defense shotgun. A good standard stock (synthetic is great) works just fine, with the pistol grip, accuracy suffers.
A muzzle brake on a shotgun is a waste of time
I like the Mossberg "mariner" because it has a much better rust resistant finish, but I would still apply a good dark finish over it. I also like the Remington 870, but I myself use a Mossberg 500 for my house gun. I added a forend that houses a tactical flashlight, it has a 20" barrel which I prefer over the 18 1/2" barrel because it can double for hunting in a pinch and the longer site radius gives better accuracy, plus it holds more rounds in the mag tube. I also installed an over the buttstock nylon sleeve that holds additional shells so that I always have extra rounds with the shotgun just in case I don’t have time to grab a bandoleer, and a good tactical sling. Other than that, I don’t like adding a lot of gizmo’s and gadgets to a self defense weapon. Just more stuff to brake or fail in an emergency and more weight. I’d take the $900 you have and use $350-$375 to purchase and equipt the mossberg, and use the rest for another firearm, or for a ton of ammo, a good sling or just plain stash it for emergencies.
shoot safe
November 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I would say the most important feature for a tactical shotgun is the operator. You can put all of the crap on a shotgun that you want but if you couldn’t operate a shotgun before all of the crap was installed, you won’t be able to operate one after.