would my face be destroyed if I shot myself between the eyes with a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with bird shot?

February 10th, 2011 by eranio

If I leaned over in a sitting position over a mossberg 500A shotgun (with a pistol grip on it) and a 16 " barell) butt end sitting on the floor between my legs and I put my head on the barrel tip with the tip placed between my eyes and pulled the trigger with a #4 round of bird shot, what would my face look like exactly?? What if I put it in my mouth and pulled the trigger? What type of damage would that do?
If the gun was a mossberg 500A with a pistol grip that was sitting on the floor between my legs, would the gun remain sitting upright without falling over?
Would my face be destroyed if the tip of the barrel was pressed against my forehead using #4 birdshot load? I’m asking this because the police say this is what my son did, but when I found him, his entire face was intact from his mid forehead down with NO blood anywhere on his face, nothing. The back of his head was gone however and the gun was standing on the pistol end upright not touching ANYTHING as if it was suspended in air with the pistol grip end sitting on the floor… that’s why I am asking. I think the police falsified the report and the Medical examiner office was shut down 6 weeks later due to their not doing their job. It was outsourced to a private hospital. So I am thinking they just didn’t want to deal with this and faked the entire report. I think his wife and boyfriend murdered him.
I think it’s funny that I have two college degrees in biology and zoology and am a gun owner, but I found my son dead with a shotgun wound to the head this summer and I am trying to figure out how it happened exactly. I am by no means suicidal and it wasn’t my gun it was his WIFE’S GUN. She bought it for him (10 yr felony there: straw purchase). So please don’t assume, you know, the first three letters of assume? I’ll never ever be the same after seeing my son lying there with his brains blown all over and I am still trying to understand how he could have done that. I never saw any hole in his face or powder burns, NOTHING. How could that happen? The police said he put the gun between his eyes and pulled the trigger but there was NO HOLE and like I said, everything from his mid forehead down and ears forward was NORMAL.
How long would it take post mortem for stippling and possibly burns to show up? I’d think burns would show up right away but stippling maybe an hour or? I’ve been trying to figure it out forensically but that’s not my forte. The police report sounded like a textbook and they said there was "tatooing" but I never saw it. I found him probably within 36 minutes of his death, really fresh. The photos I saw taken a few hours later by the medical examiner, he looked completely different, hands curled, position shifted and large brain lobes were deflated somewhat that were lying around him ie. dessication and rigor was early onset. I can’t get the answers to my questions yet but I am working on it via the sherrif dept and the new medical examiners office. He was also drugged on clonopin, not his Rx. His hands were resting palm down on his legs, one on each when I found him, as if someone put them there. really strange. It’s three months out and I still cry in losing my son.
JOSHUA: I DO NOT OWN THIS GUN HIS WIFE BOUGHT IT FOR HIM OK GOT IT? One of the questions I DID have today for the Sherrif in my appeal for their photos of my son’s death is HOW LONG WAS THE GUN FROM TIP TO GRIP because I am eventually turning his wife in for a straw purchase to ATF. You want to look it up his name is John Charles Heitz and his date of death was on 7.19.2010 in Kalamazoo county michigan. I am his mother. he was 33. Why do you continue to accuse me of owning an illegal gun? You can’t read or? I already said it was registered to his wife. I think the police report said it was 16 3/4 inches and I know anything under 30" is considered a pistol and needs registration etc. as a handgun.
I did go back to this truck days later and took photos of the splatter too… there was some above but most of it was behind him in his bunk and consistent with center fire shells his brains were mainly to the right of him behind and to the side of remained his head with a large lobe off to his left. he was leaning slightly to the right on his back. When I found him, the gun wasn’t touching anything but the floor and so after I called 911 I went back into the truck and looked again at him to confirm what I saw, gun was exactly perpendicular to the floor touching NOTHING but the floor with a pistol grip end. I think that is nearly impossible with that type of gun and load. I found a shell at the scene after they all left and took my son to the funeral home. They police say they have a shell too… so I am wondering what is up with that as well… I know you have to cock the gun to empty the shell… Police said there one only one empty shell in the gun when they found it…
and by the way, I owned 16 guns when I lived up in Montana back in the 1980s and hunted on a regular basis AND I am a female AND NOT a christian republican extremist/conservative militia freak of nature. I just want to know how my son died and if the gun was illegal his crazy wife is at fault as it was HERS not MINE. All I need now is the police photos and if I see a hole in his forehead and after forensics deals with it then I can rest in peace knowing that my son wanted so badly to get away from his fat disgustingly obsessive complusive wife that he killed himself to get free of her. She told me that day she told my son the day he died she would give him a divorce. Well he might not have wanted to wait that long. Too bad she was such a dominating obsessive compulsive freak. Sorry about the new boyfriend she found less than a month after she moved to california. He doesn’t know she’s going to get him too… She’s a man eater.

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what do i buy to clean my shotgun?

January 16th, 2011 by eranio

what products ?. not sure if i want a kit because i’d be paying for different bore brushes when i really only need 1. i have no clue what products to buy and what i need to get the job done, i have no experience. tell me everythingn i should have to properly clean a gun

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Can I convert a shotgun from a 12 gauge to a 20 gauge?

November 11th, 2010 by eranio

I am wanting to purchase a Mossberg shotgun at a gunshow tomorrow, and am really liking the Cruiser models, except they come in 12 gauge. I was wondering how you can convert, if possible, a shotgun from 12 to 20 gauge. I know that you convert the barrels on handguns to allow for this, but did not know if that would be the case with shotguns.

Also, if you really want to help me, you can tell me if Mossberg does make the Cruiser in a 20 gauge. The reason I like them is because they are small, sleek, and especially like the pump-strap.
I am wanting to get a shotgun my girlfriend will feel comfortable using, and the 12 is too powerful for that. The 20 will do MORE than the required job of self-defense, and be my play toy when I want to add stuff to it.
Garret…you CAN convert a gun. Glock’s are the easiest guns to convert as you only need to change the barrel. I know this because I HAVE ONE to do it!

I just didn’t know if the same could be done with a shotty…

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Has anybody used Wilson Precision Products?

April 24th, 2010 by eranio

I am looking at have some custom work done on a shotgun.

I am looking at having the barrel back bored
Having the forcing cone lengthened
Getting a ported choke.

The entire process should reduce the felt recoil by at least 30-40% combine that with a weighted stock and balance job should reduce the total felt recoil by 50%

They are quoting 5

Any opinions of the company or process, or suggestions?

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I want to take a squirrel to a taxidermist. What should I do to prepare it?

March 14th, 2010 by eranio

Should the squirrel be gutted? Frozen? Anything else I should do immediately upon the kill? Can the taxidermist do a clean job if I use a .22 or should I use a shotgun with an 8 shot?

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O/U shotgun or Semi auto (Trap shooting)?

March 13th, 2010 by eranio

Next year i will be in high school (9th grade). I’m going to join the 4-H trap shooting team. Should I get a semi-auto or a O/U. I want a 20ga (no 12GA). I’ve seen i few and going to get a job for the summer (so i can save up for it).
I have shot sporting clays before. I need a gun for comp. I have trained with pump.
Thanks all yall except the guy who said i shoud start with a pump.

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Proper way to clean my shotgun?

January 27th, 2010 by eranio

I have a benelli supernova tactical shotgun which I have taken to the range and fired maybe 30 rounds through or so (buckshot and slugs). I purchased a remington universal cleaning kit, I’m just curious what are the steps to clean my gun?

Of course I know how to take off the barrel and such.

I just don’t know the order of things to do, when do I use the bore cleaning solvent, the patches, the bronze brush, etc.?
Do I need to worry about scratching anything? I would assume steel is harder than bronze… but I want to make sure.
Does the order even really matter? Or should I just use the brush until the big chunks of wad and lead oare gone and then use the patch with solvent to finish the job?

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Mafia Wars: Tactical Shotgun?

December 3rd, 2009 by eranio

How do u get the tactical shotgun on mafia wars on facebook?

I am now level 15, and I need 2 of them for the "Clip the Irish Mob’s Local Enforcer" Job.

Anybody know how to get it? Because I cannot find it the the weapons shop.
Never mind, I found the answer…

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What is the best shotgun to use when deer hunting?

November 22nd, 2009 by eranio

It needs to be affordable yet accurate and able to get the job done?

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