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		<title>By: sean24seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean24seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You  can never, ever go wrong with a Remington 870 for any purpose. There&#039;s a reason it&#039;s the highest selling gun in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You  can never, ever go wrong with a Remington 870 for any purpose. There&#8217;s a reason it&#8217;s the highest selling gun in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiskeyGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiskeyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would definately want to purchase a 12 guage with the shortest length barrel allowed in your state. I own a Mossberg 500A and it&#039;s a decent model and pretty reasonably priced (around $150 I believe). My primary home defense weapon is a Kimber .45 handgun, but I have confidence in my shotgun as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would definately want to purchase a 12 guage with the shortest length barrel allowed in your state. I own a Mossberg 500A and it&#8217;s a decent model and pretty reasonably priced (around $150 I believe). My primary home defense weapon is a Kimber .45 handgun, but I have confidence in my shotgun as well.</p>
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		<title>By: haloи†иiezwyciężony</title>
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		<dc:creator>haloи†иiezwyciężony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12 gauge pump &amp; saw it off or a streetsweeper with flechette rounds :o +they got a sidewinder modification for mosbergs that they discontinued for a drum clip on a mosberg omg or the cmags with an m4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Ra9bqd15O8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 gauge pump &amp; saw it off or a streetsweeper with flechette rounds <img src='http://cheapshotguns.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  +they got a sidewinder modification for mosbergs that they discontinued for a drum clip on a mosberg omg or the cmags with an m4 <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Ra9bqd15O8" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Ra9bqd15O8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dhyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dhyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AK47</description>
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		<title>By: ThatguyPete</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatguyPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, if you have to ask...you probably shouldn&#039;t be handling a shotgun around the house (and probably in the dark).  
Get a small caliber revolver (borrow it if you have to),  find a concealed carry class in the area,  learn the law about shooting someone in self-defense, shoot at a range with an instructor...
THEN make a decision about a home defense weapon.
I&#039;ve been a shooter for years, but I took a  concealed carry class. It opened my eyes about home-defense AND the law. (especially the law)  You will not regret it!  Good luck!
P.S.  Just the sound of chambering a shell in a Remmington pump changed a would-be robber&#039;s mind who was breaking in my back door one night at 3:30 a.m. !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, if you have to ask&#8230;you probably shouldn&#8217;t be handling a shotgun around the house (and probably in the dark).<br />
Get a small caliber revolver (borrow it if you have to),  find a concealed carry class in the area,  learn the law about shooting someone in self-defense, shoot at a range with an instructor&#8230;<br />
THEN make a decision about a home defense weapon.<br />
I&#8217;ve been a shooter for years, but I took a  concealed carry class. It opened my eyes about home-defense AND the law. (especially the law)  You will not regret it!  Good luck!<br />
P.S.  Just the sound of chambering a shell in a Remmington pump changed a would-be robber&#8217;s mind who was breaking in my back door one night at 3:30 a.m. !!!</p>
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		<title>By: fishtrembleatmyname</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishtrembleatmyname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dhyan, that&#039;s not a Shotgun.

But the best reasonable shotgun for home defense would have to be the Mossberg 500.  It&#039;s every bit as dependable as an 870, but the feed ramp won&#039;t bite your fingers when you need to reload fast, it&#039;s easier to cock, a similar configuration will be lighter, and the dual extractor claws almost guarantee perfect extraction.  I&#039;ve seen Remington&#039;s have some serous extraction issues before, not the kind of thing that I want to deal with when someone&#039;s trying to attack your home.  Granted, some of the higher end police models do have better feeding, but they&#039;re still just not as good as a $150 500.

An above poster said that everybody uses an 870, and he&#039;s partially right.  The 870 was adopted for military service back in Vietnam, and soldiers who returned generally did join the police department, so when it came to buy shotguns, their departments got the familiar 870s.  Mossberg won the combat shotgun contract after Remington declined to submit a test model for contract eligibility, they knew they couldn&#039;t compete with the stronger magazine design, lighter weight, and lower production cost of the 590.  However, most departments still are using the 870.  There are some with 500s, but the 870 still is more popular.

If you&#039;re looking for an autoloader, the Beretta 1201FP is a fine choice.  It&#039;s a Benelli inertia driven action with an 18&quot; or 20&quot; barrel, and very dependable.  Unlike a Remington 1100 or 1187, it can cycle low recoil loads, mine has cycled mini shells before, and it&#039;s virtually zero maintainance.  No gas system to clean or rings to replace.  I had to replace a few parts in the trigger group with Benelli parts, it&#039;s gone through several thousand rounds, including some very high power rounds.

However, if you can afford the extra money for one, and it wouldn&#039;t phase you, you could get a Benelli M4.  They&#039;re pretty much the most reliable tube-fed autoloader available on the market now.  The Marines are using a special version of the M4, called the XM1014(unless, of course, it&#039;s out of it&#039;s experimental stage by now) which is basically the same as the ghost-ring civilian version, but with a telescoping stock.

If you&#039;re looking for something better than that, about the best you can do for a close combat shotgun is a tuned Saiga 12.  They&#039;re available from Tromix Lead Delivery Systems, and are regularly seen at the highest levels of competitive tactical shotgun competition.  Some people do have a low oppinion of them, but after they&#039;ve been through the guys at Tromix, they&#039;re going to really rock.  Expect to also buy several extra magazines, as well, since it&#039;s a magazine fed 12 gauge autoloader.  Magazines for these aren&#039;t cheap, with 20 round drums often selling for nearly the price of the original (untuned) firearm.

My personal favorite load for shotgunning is the Fiocchi 00 nickel plated buckshot.  Their low recoil loadings are easy to shoot, and kick hardly any more than an AR.  The higher power buckshot loads are much more effective, allowing the hardened shell to penetrate clothing and light body armor more effectively before flattening out and destroying tissue.  If you&#039;re worried about over penetration, steel duck shot might be the ticket.  The smaller shot will carry less energy per pellet, but have more pellets, while the lighter-than-lead steel shot will slow down faster as it hits solid objects such as drywall or wood.  If you&#039;re looking for slugs, the Federal Pow-R-Ball rifled slugs are very effective, and very accurate.  They&#039;re also not too expensive, so practicing with them won&#039;t break the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dhyan, that&#8217;s not a Shotgun.</p>
<p>But the best reasonable shotgun for home defense would have to be the Mossberg 500.  It&#8217;s every bit as dependable as an 870, but the feed ramp won&#8217;t bite your fingers when you need to reload fast, it&#8217;s easier to cock, a similar configuration will be lighter, and the dual extractor claws almost guarantee perfect extraction.  I&#8217;ve seen Remington&#8217;s have some serous extraction issues before, not the kind of thing that I want to deal with when someone&#8217;s trying to attack your home.  Granted, some of the higher end police models do have better feeding, but they&#8217;re still just not as good as a $150 500.</p>
<p>An above poster said that everybody uses an 870, and he&#8217;s partially right.  The 870 was adopted for military service back in Vietnam, and soldiers who returned generally did join the police department, so when it came to buy shotguns, their departments got the familiar 870s.  Mossberg won the combat shotgun contract after Remington declined to submit a test model for contract eligibility, they knew they couldn&#8217;t compete with the stronger magazine design, lighter weight, and lower production cost of the 590.  However, most departments still are using the 870.  There are some with 500s, but the 870 still is more popular.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for an autoloader, the Beretta 1201FP is a fine choice.  It&#8217;s a Benelli inertia driven action with an 18&quot; or 20&quot; barrel, and very dependable.  Unlike a Remington 1100 or 1187, it can cycle low recoil loads, mine has cycled mini shells before, and it&#8217;s virtually zero maintainance.  No gas system to clean or rings to replace.  I had to replace a few parts in the trigger group with Benelli parts, it&#8217;s gone through several thousand rounds, including some very high power rounds.</p>
<p>However, if you can afford the extra money for one, and it wouldn&#8217;t phase you, you could get a Benelli M4.  They&#8217;re pretty much the most reliable tube-fed autoloader available on the market now.  The Marines are using a special version of the M4, called the XM1014(unless, of course, it&#8217;s out of it&#8217;s experimental stage by now) which is basically the same as the ghost-ring civilian version, but with a telescoping stock.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for something better than that, about the best you can do for a close combat shotgun is a tuned Saiga 12.  They&#8217;re available from Tromix Lead Delivery Systems, and are regularly seen at the highest levels of competitive tactical shotgun competition.  Some people do have a low oppinion of them, but after they&#8217;ve been through the guys at Tromix, they&#8217;re going to really rock.  Expect to also buy several extra magazines, as well, since it&#8217;s a magazine fed 12 gauge autoloader.  Magazines for these aren&#8217;t cheap, with 20 round drums often selling for nearly the price of the original (untuned) firearm.</p>
<p>My personal favorite load for shotgunning is the Fiocchi 00 nickel plated buckshot.  Their low recoil loadings are easy to shoot, and kick hardly any more than an AR.  The higher power buckshot loads are much more effective, allowing the hardened shell to penetrate clothing and light body armor more effectively before flattening out and destroying tissue.  If you&#8217;re worried about over penetration, steel duck shot might be the ticket.  The smaller shot will carry less energy per pellet, but have more pellets, while the lighter-than-lead steel shot will slow down faster as it hits solid objects such as drywall or wood.  If you&#8217;re looking for slugs, the Federal Pow-R-Ball rifled slugs are very effective, and very accurate.  They&#8217;re also not too expensive, so practicing with them won&#8217;t break the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
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		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I favor the Remington 870 pump but any good side-by-side is also great.

Best.

H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I favor the Remington 870 pump but any good side-by-side is also great.</p>
<p>Best.</p>
<p>H</p>
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		<title>By: pathfinder</title>
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		<dc:creator>pathfinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 7 shot 18 1/2&quot; inch barrel Remington 870 Express Magnum. Price is about $350. The Mossberg 500A with an 18 1/2&quot; barrel is also excellent. It cost about $240.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 7 shot 18 1/2&quot; inch barrel Remington 870 Express Magnum. Price is about $350. The Mossberg 500A with an 18 1/2&quot; barrel is also excellent. It cost about $240.</p>
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		<title>By: old fuzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>old fuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had my Remington 870 since 1975.  I have a Choate full sized stock on it (no folders for me), an extension tube (eight rounds), a 20 inch barrel, and large rifle sights.  I load with #4 shot.

It ain&#039;t pretty but is utterly dependable, accurate, and reliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had my Remington 870 since 1975.  I have a Choate full sized stock on it (no folders for me), an extension tube (eight rounds), a 20 inch barrel, and large rifle sights.  I load with #4 shot.</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t pretty but is utterly dependable, accurate, and reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: KCX</title>
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		<dc:creator>KCX</dc:creator>
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		<description>I use a Mossberg 590,I think it is the best.</description>
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